GlobalStudies06

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• 1    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 6:14 pm

  1. On an emotional level Arafat is saying that he feels that Palestine deserves the right to self-determination and also that Jews can live in Palestine in peace and without discrimination. I agree with him I feel that he knows that having a Palestinian state alongside an Israeli state would not work, yet it is worth trying to join them as one. “In the past ten years our struggle, thousands of martyrs and twice as many wounded, maimed and imprisoned have been offered in sacrifice, all in an effort to resist the imminent threat of liquidation, to regain the right to self-determination and our right to return to our homeland” (Arafat 47). Arafat feels that they have sacrificed a lot of their people but received nothing in return, and it is only right they get the land that was once theirs. “…our common hopes for the Palestine of tomorrow we include in our perspective all Jews now living in Palestine who choose to live with us there in peace and without discrimination” ( Arafat 49). Arafat hopes for Jews to live in peace and without discrimination, this would make things easier. “Our hope is thereby strengthened that the United Nations may contribute actively to the pursuit and triumph of the causes of peace, justice, freedom, and independence” (Arafat 41). Arafat hopes with the help of the United Nations Palestine will achieve their goal to live in peace.

  Alli B.
  (this was really hard and i might have done this all wrong so I’m sorry!)

• 2    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 8:53 pm

  1. Emotionally after watching the movie I was disgusted with them and after the reading this didn’t portray such the hash image that Arafat really is. I disagree with Arafat.
  -“for when what is proposed is that adherents of the Jewish faith regardless of their national residence, should neither owe allegiance to their, non-Jewish citizens-when that is proposed we hear anti-Semitism being proposed” (Arafat)
  -“Between 1882 and 1917 the Zionist movement settled approximately 50,000 European Jewish our homeland. To do plant them in our midst”(Arafat)
  -“By 1947 the number of Jews reached 600,000”(Arafat)
  -“When the majority of the Palestinian people was uprooted from its homeland in 1948 the Palestine struggle for self-determination continues in spites of efforts to destroy it.”(Arafat)

• 3    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 8:53 pm

  -Monica C

• 4    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 10:06 pm

  1. Arafat is saying that he wants peace however he believes that there is no way that they will achieve peace while the Israel people and the Palestinian people are living side by side. Like the article said “Arafat does not envision a Palestinian state alongside an Israeli state but one that replaces it” (Arafat 40). I disagree with this statement because I believe that if Palestinian would stop bringing terror against Israel then Israel would stop too and peace could be made. I feel that one day Israeli and Palestinian people will be able to live side by side.
  2. One way that Arafat position could be right is when he says that there are people from Zimbabwe, Namibia, South Africa and Palestine who are “victims of oppression and violence” (Arafat 41). All of these people from different back grounds that are being affected by the Israeli people and valance. A second way is when Arafat says is that the Palestinian people were uprooted from their homes because the Jewish people came and took over. Arafat is saying how can the Palestinian people live side by side with someone who will try to take over their land. Lastly, in the year 1881 the Jewish people invaded Palestinian, so this disagreement has not just been resent but it has been over a century of the Jewish people trying to take over. Arafat is making clear that it will be impossible for the Israeli and Palestinian people to ever live side by side.
  Erika I.

• 5    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 10:13 pm

  1. Arafat is saying that his people who have lived in and controlled Palestine for several generations have been displaced by a group of people, the zionist, Jews who wanted to take over the country and move their own people in and get rid of the Arabs or leave them without political control.
  2.a)Israel’s zionist claim that the Jews are the rightful, long-term owners of the land due to their old historical claims. They think this land is mostly desert and disregard the claims that a cultured people lived there. Arafat’s claims that colonial powers are to blame and that colonialism and colonial powers are to blame and that colonialism is always bad is a complicated and difficult thing to prove. Some colonialism did good things for local people, especially under British rule. Britain, in this case, was trying to help oppressed Jewsand probably thought the Jews and Arabs could live together in this land peaceful. Being attacked by the Arabs right away kept this from happening.
  b) The Zionists didn’t represent all the Jews and they did want total control of Palestine. They did persecute the Arabs and stole their land. They were imperialistic when they made new settlements in areas that the UN mandate didn’t give them. The Palestinians were a viable culture, as much as any other in the Middle East with a major cultural capital, Jerusalem. There were very few jews living in Palestine in the first half of the 1900s, now they control it. Zionism does promote racist ideas against non-jews. THey aren’t promoting diversity.
  -Torri C.

• 6    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 10:27 pm

  1. I disagree with Arafat. I believe that if both Israeli and Pakistani people wanted peace then they would be able to achieve it. If Pakistan would stop being terror against the Israel people. It is possible for them to live together but they have to try to keep the peace.
  2. One way that shows us that Arafat believes that the Pakistani and Israeli people can not live together is because he said that the Israeli people have oppressed the Pakistani people. “…Palatine [are] victims of oppression and violence” (Arafat 41). He said that the Israeli people have oppressed the Pakistani people. Arafat also told us that the Israeli people uprooted them from their homes. He said the Jewish people invaded their homes and took control and forced some people to be uprooted. “When the majority of the Palestine people was up rooted from it’s homeland in 1948, the Palestinian struggle for self-determination continued in spite of efforts to destroy it”(Arafat 46). Another reason that he does not believe that they would be able to live together in peace was that the Jewish people invaded Pakistan in 1881 and this disagreement has not been resolved in the pass few decades. This is why Arafat believes that they can not live side by side in peace.
  Jamie I.

• 7    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 10:47 pm

  1. I think Arafat is saying how there needs to be peace but will be hard when two sides cant seem to agree on anything. He says that he “does not envision a Palestinian state alongside an Israeli state, but one that replaces it” (Arafat 40).
  2.I agree with Arafat that it will be hard to have peace with Israeli and Palestinians. Palestinian people believes that ” the only solution for the Jewish problem is that Jews must alienate themselves from communities or nation” (Arafat 44) means that Palestinians are not trying to incorporate Jews into their communities or lives. “we believe that any question now exercising the world’s concern must be viewed radically, in the true sense of that word, if a real solution is ever to be grasped” is saying that they dont think a solution or peace will ever be reached.

• 8    globalspartan // Nov 19, 2006 at 10:48 pm

  Jamie W ^

• 9    globalspartan // Nov 20, 2006 at 7:36 am

  1. What Arafat is trying to say is that, although peace between Isreal and Palestine sounds good, he does not believe it is possible because the two countries are side by side. I believe that the situation between these two countries will not be resolved for a long time just because of all the disagreements they have and because of their locations.

  2. One thing that makes me believe it is not going to be resolves is the situation where Isreal thinks that they are the long-term owners of the land just because of the people and cultures that live on it. If they can’t give that one thing up how are they going to optain peace.
  Also looking at the quotes the Jamie used, ” the only solution for the Jewish problem is that Jews must alienate themselves from communities or nation” (Arafat 44) it shows that they are not willing to come as one with the Jews. Their hatred for them is very strong and i do not see it ending anytime soon
  lastly is just the all around situation. The Isreali’s believe that they have control over the Palestinians. They are always disagreeing and causing riots and wars, and they are always trying to take away their land and rights.

  Alex S
  (pwsh, that was a hard one.)

• 10    globalspartan // Nov 20, 2006 at 8:22 am

  Arafat is saying that he feels the two countries can not make peace because; Israel and Palestine are right next to each other. And I do not think that this will be resolved any time soon sue to their locations and there arguments.
  That Jews can live in Palestine in peace without any discrimination. I do agree with him. I think he realizes that having a Palestinian state with an Israeli state could never work, even though it would be good to make them as one. Arafat hopes for Jews to live in peace, without discrimination.
  A main problem is that Israel is not willing to give something up for peace. For instance their land, they believe that they are long-term owners, because of the people and cultures that live on it.
  Shawna

• 11    globalspartan // Nov 20, 2006 at 10:06 am

  1) Arafat is saying that Israelis are not the victimized people in this situation, the Palestinians are. They were viciously uprooted from their homes through acts of terror and unjust government decisions. All they have been trying to do since is reclaim their homeland. They are insulted by the lack of political understanding for their cause, and by the assumption that they had no real ties to their homeland, that it had just been desert before foreigners came. He does not want the liquidation of Jews, just the return of homeland. He and his people are willing to work for a peaceful coexistence in the country of Palestine. Emotionally, I agree with him. It’s appalling that an entire group of people should be uprooted and taken from their homeland and then be called a threat for not just accepting it. An entire population was turned into refugees. Now an entirely new population is occupying their homes, offices, farms and cities.
  2A) The facts that undermine Arafat’s argument are largely issues of hypocrisy. Many acts that he accuses Israel of, Palestine is also guilty of. For example:
  A- He claims that Palestinians “will [not] permit their homeland to become a launching pad for aggression or a racist camp for the destruction of civilization, culture, progress, and peace” (Arafat 46). Yet from their homeland, the smaller Palestine, and into their ancient homeland they are sending martyrs and violence. Palestinians are just as guilty of attempting to destroy the Israeli’s peace, progress, and culture.
  B- He accuses the Israeli’s of committing acts of terror when the Palestinians sent into Israel fighters and explosives. Yet, all the Israelis are doing is protecting their homeland. Trying to push foreign fighters from your country is not terrorism, it’s self-defense. And again, Palestinians are committing acts of terror against the Israelis, so they are just as guilty of this crime.
  C- Finally, he admits that Palestine has lost “thousands of martyrs”(Arafat 47) yet later encourages the Jewish people to resist their “leadership’s efforts to instill in them a Masada complex [to die rather than surrender] and make it their destiny”(Arafat 49). Palestinians would rather die in the fight to maintain their land rather than surrender. These are two contradictory statements. I rest my case.

  -Kara B.

• 12    globalspartan // Nov 20, 2006 at 11:40 am

  1.) Arafat is saying how he believes that there should be peace because Israel and Palestine but he thinks its not possible. I think that if the two countries were to sit down with eachother and talk about every possible solution then maybe some change could occur but I do believe that peace wont settle until a few more years.

  2.) I agree with Arafat. “The only solution for the jewish problem is that jews must alienate themselves from communitites or nation” (Arafat 44). I agree with this quotes because this shows how the two countries dont want to have a resolution.

  *Christina Newsome…Im not sure if I did the second one right but I tried my best…:)

• 13    globalspartan // Nov 20, 2006 at 11:41 pm

  1. Arafat on an emotional level is saying that the Palestinians are the rightful owners of the land and not the Jews. They were kicked out of their homes and want them back. He will stand by their sides to gain their homes that were once theirs. I do think it is horrible that Palestinians were kicked out of their homes, and I agree with him on that sense. I also would support another way to have gained Israel instead of kicking the Palestinians out. However I disagree with him because the land was the Jews first, and finding peace to live side by side may never happen, but the fighting needs to stop before efforts towards living side by side are placed in action.
  2. b) – “Our world aspires to peace, justice, equality and freedom. It hopes that oppressed nations, at present bent under the weight of imperialism, may gain their freedom and their right to self-determination…”
  -“ Just as colonialism used religion, color, race and language to justify the people’s exploitation and its cruel subjugation by terror and discrimination, so too were these methods employed as Palestine was usurped and its people hounded from their national homeland.”
  -“We offer them the most generous solution-that we should live together in a framework of just peace in our democratic Palestine.”

  ~Carly S.~

  P.S- I was absent so it’s not late
  P.P.S- this was a workout

• 14    globalspartan // Nov 21, 2006 at 1:06 am

  1. Arafat seems to be saying that peace is something that needs to come about between the Palestinians and Israelis but this is also something that is impossible because the two sides can not come to terms on anything. “Arafat does not envision a Palestinian state alongside an Israeli state but one that replaces it” (Arafat 40). This goes to show Arafat wants what he knows will not happen. I disagree with this because i feel peace can be found, but Arafat has to big an ego to compromise.

  2. -Palestine and its people inhabited this land before they were forced out by the UN. Israel may be able to trace its religion back to this land but Palestine was there.
  -The Jews invaded Pakistan in 1881 and that situation has never been taken care of. If things like that can not be delt with how are the two expected to live side by side?
  -The Jewish people are not trying to see things from a Palenstian point of view.

  -Dylan L.

• 15    globalspartan // Nov 21, 2006 at 10:43 am

  1. Arafat wants peace, however is other statements and actions contradict this notion. He said that the palestinians will continue fighting the Isralies until they flee the land or until they’re all dead, which ever comes first. This doesn’t sound very peaceful to me. Emotionally, I think this guy is insane. How a self-rightous tyrannical (expletive deleted) came to rule a country and brainwash an entire society is beyond me. It should have never been allowed and now Palestine is in serious need of guidance. Excuse me for the tangent. To answer the question I think both sides want peace (the Israelies more so than the Palestinians), however I think it is unlikely to happen in the near future.

  2. Emotions aside, I can see where both sides are coming from. It is a war over land, as many wars have been fought before. It becomes more complex however once you delve into the history of Israel. If I’m not mistaken the Jews were their first, so I think they have the right to be there.

  -Mike H

• 16    globalspartan // Nov 21, 2006 at 11:50 am

  Arafat claims the decision of his people to build a new world is finally fortified. Arafat claims the right, of Palestine, to self determination. Arafat says that the European idea of colonialism in the Middle East, and below into Africa, come from as far back as the final years of the nineteenth century and that this was when the Zionist imperialist plan was born; gunning for the conquest of Palestine. Arafat draws congruencies between Palestine’s fight for territory and Self Determination, and the fight the British colonies in America went through in efforts to gain independence from the oppressive colonial government. He claims that “European Jews were transformed into the instruments of aggression” on behalf of European imperialism and of the Zionist leadership.
  Arafat mentions the League of Nations as a colonialist ally to the Zionist movement. He says that “The General Assembly partitioned what it had no right to divide.” I agree that if a World council were to assign land to anyone that they cannot just move people around like pieces on a game board. A question to ask is whether or not people are willing to coincide on one land peacefully, or will too many conflicts arise. Similarly, the U.S. government can no longer house troops in a private home with out the home owners consent; properties cannot be intruded upon without permission.

  -jb

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