Knowledge & Understanding
1. What did you have the strongest reaction to in the reading and why?
Application of Knowledge
2. Amnesty International made numerous recommendations about judicial rights in Iran. Pick one abuse pointed out by Amnesty International and show how that impacted characters in the novel.
Analyzing your reading
3. Was this selection harder to read or easier because it was from a novel. Provide three reasons for your answer.
16 responses so far ↓
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globalspartan
// Oct 30, 2006 at 8:21 pm
1. My strongest reaction to this reading is that life over in Iran is very different. The freedoms that women have are very limited. The women can see that they are not being treated right but yet this has been the way they have been treated their whole life so they are use to it.
2. One abuse pointed out by Amnesty International was when the group of women were sitting with the one man and the Revolutionary Guards came to search the area. When the guards found nothing they did not want their warrant to go to waste so they took the women to jail. The women had to take virginity tests and then sign confession of a crime in which they had not violated. This impacted the characters in the novel because they are forced to take credit for crimes they have no committed. This makes the characters in the novel nervous to go about their everyday life because of the crimes they can be committed for.
3. This selection was easier to read because it was a novel. I still feel asleep while reading it but I think that was more the fact that I was tired. This was easier to read because there were people in which you had to follow their story. Also while reading this you have to put a “tone” to the reading which places you in the novel which makes it more exciting. The final reason this was easier to read because there were no written facts that you had to follow in order to understand the context of the story.
Alli Berger.
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globalspartan
// Oct 31, 2006 at 6:35 pm
1. The most socking reaction I had when reading this novel was the part when the Professor was talking about how young flighty women or girls were ruining the lives of men. He used the Lolita reining the lives of an intelligent man. A nothing thing that shocked me was when they were talking about how some men look for wives that are at least two decades younger then them. This was very surprising and socking for me to read. I can not believe that a twenty- three year old would want to marry someone who was almost fifty. I also had trouble believing that an innocent girl would make a man take control of her and do things against he will. If a man decides to do something with out a woman’s will why the women should be blames. These things were very surprising to me.
2. One law that was abused was reviewing procedural laws relating to the administration of justice to ensure that arrest, detention, access to legal counsel and trial procedures, including the right to appeal, are brought into line with international standards. This right was abused when the girls were brought into jail. The police did not allow the girls to call their parents or call layers to help them with their case. The laws were also broken when they took the girls and put them in prison for no reason. The girls should not have been put in jail at all because they did not do anything wrong. When the girls were put in jail and denied the right to call anyone the law was broken and rights were taken away.
3. Over all I felt that this article was much easier to read then the other for many reasons. One reason was that this novel was not as dry as others it had a plot that was interesting. A second reason that made this article more interesting was the fact that their were characters that makes the reader try to understand and relate to. Lastly, this article was more interesting because it was so surprising and shocking that it made me want to keep reading. Over all, this article was a lot more interesting then the other articles that we have read.
Erika I.
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globalspartan
// Oct 31, 2006 at 6:42 pm
1. The most shocking reaction I had to the article was when the author was talking about how doctors mutilated young women to help to curb their (men’s) appetite. I thought that this was crazy. Young girls are being mutilated against their will so that the men’s sexual craving would not be as strong. They are completely ruining the young girls appearance for their own selfish reasons and I think that it is so wrong.
2. One law that was abused was restricting freedom of expression. At the end of the article she was talking about how she thinks that she is able to talk about all of the difficulties that she went through like being kept in jail against her will because she was so far away from Iran and the government. She was not able to talk or express herself because of the fear of the government. They were restricted about certain things that could write about that could make the government look bad.
3. I liked this article better because it was more interesting, it was easier to understand because there were not as many technical terms. I also liked that the article had a story having to do with young people that were experiencing different problems that we have never had to experience.
Jamie I.
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globalspartan
// Oct 31, 2006 at 11:33 pm
1. My strongest reaction was caused from when Sanaz recalled being taken to jail. She must be only a few years older than us, so she is easy to identify with. How she was treated in the jail is unheard of and disgusting. A young person not being allowed to call his or her parents in this country would be cause for legal action, but in Iran it is normal. To tell the parents the kids died in a car accident would cause a scandal, but it is something the police there are allowed to do. I find that particularly scary.
2. The most shocking abuse pointed out by Amnesty International was the ability to enter homes without warrants. The warrants exist, just the police do not feel they need to wait to get them. The police feel they are being respectful enough when they forewarn the women of the family that they plan to enter a home. This abuse effected the characters when the police entered the narrator’s home to get a neighbor who had entered her backyard.
3. This selection was easier to read because:
A- There was less legal jargon, like Jamie pointed out. It read just like someone telling a story, which was the goal.
B- The victims aren’t just large statistics like “twenty-five million people…” they are characters that we have come to know the quirks and thoughts of. In a way, because we know them more personally, we are more invested in them.
C- The article was approached with a touch of humor. The author not only recalls the hard times, but the lighter times too. Like when her mother had the serious hostpital guards over to gossip over coffee, or her family’s shared love of The Doors.
~Kara B.
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 7:32 am
1. My strongest reaction to the reading was the way women were treated. Men have so much control and there is no equality it is ridiculous. Women are used to these traditions but I am curious to see what they think of another culture when women can choose who they marry and have choices in their life. It was very surprising how much women would be scolded by the men in their lives too.
2. Their law system is a huge abuse in their country that needs to change. The police are horrendous and the fact that they can arrest people for doing nothing so their warrant wouldn’t be wasted is horrible. Also the characters in the book weren’t allowed a lawyer or even a call home to assure their parents that they are alive. All of these facts would be illegal in America and other countries around the world, however Iran it seems normal. In the video we watched previously a girl spoke about going to jail so nonchalantly it was almost like she was talking about going to the mall.
3. This selection was easier to read because it was from a novel for a few reasons. One reason was how at least for me, when I read a good book I relate to the character, or feel like I know them. This causes me to care for what goes on in their life and forces me to keep reading. Another reason is that it is much more interesting, rather then just facts on a sheet with some “o.k” transition sentences; a novel has a plot and tries to excite the reader. Finally the book had an easy flow to it with light humor and seemed to be written towards our age group.
~Carly S.~
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 8:32 am
1. The part that I found most shocking was how amoral and uncaring the Royal Guard was, arresting and imprisoning people with little or no reason to. I found it sad and depressing and frustrating how the group which is supposed to uphold and enforce the moral code can be the complere opposite of what they stand for.
2.One huge problem with their system is the fact that the police can search and arrest anyone they fell like without any rhyme or reason. The police had no reason to search Sanaz’s party and even when they did, they found nothing incriminating, yet they arrested them all the same. This should never happen in any modern system.
3. I found this reading to be a LOT easier to read then previous articles. The fact that it is told through someone’s eyes helped tremendously, giving the reading its own voice and personality. The inclusion of many other characters helped a lot as well, giving a number of different characters and personalities to identify with. Also, because it is an exceprt from a novel instead of an article, it is not simply a listing of facts and recommendations, but is told with a person’s thoughts, reflections, and their personality.
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 8:33 am
^^^
Jihan Hoilett
(Sorry about that)
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 10:44 am
1. My strongest reaction to the reading was the way that they treated women. I think its crazy how men basically have control of everything and women barely do anything…at the same time its a shame because they’ve been use to that their whole life. In the U.S. the woman are just as equal as the men but when I read about situations where woman are not considered equal it draws my attention.
2. One of the problems with their system is that the police can basically do whatever they want. They dont need warrants to go into peoples houses and you can get arrested for a crime you didnt even commit. When the police went into that party and they didnt find anything…they still arrested all the people…when they didnt do anything. Thats just wrong.
3. This reading was much easier to read because it was easier to understand. Also, it was much more intresting because it talked about young people more and since im conisdered young it appealed to me more.
-Christina Newsome
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 11:13 am
I had the strongest reaction to chapter 21. As the study group talked I grew more and more surprised. They were having a fairly normal debate about men and women for a short while until: “How about genitally mutilating men” Nassrin suggested coolly, “so as to curb their sexual appetites?”- That threw me off. But the conversation did not stop there. “I have to tell you that the Ayatollah himself was no novice in sexual matters,” Nassrin went on. Then an explanation followed about sex with animals and whether or not it is right to eat a chicken after you have had sex with it. Well according to the Ayatollah you cannot eat the chicken you have violated and neither may your neighbors. However, your neighbor living two doors down may eat that chicken which you have previously violated. And this was an unfamiliar topic of conversation to me and one which I was not quite prepared to read about. Of course this culture is foreign to most of us living in the U.S. but I agree with them when they say: “What was disturbing was that these texts were taken seriously by people who ruled us and in whose hands lay our fate and the fate of our country.” On television and radio shows that aired nationally people would make similar statements and discuss such matters daily, as if the were the most serious of themes for contemplation and consideration.
This was an incredibly more captivating read than news reports. This opinionated, detailed, and more story like autobiography held more substance as a work of non-fiction. I would rather read a book about Iran than a news article about Iran because books are filled with more narrative details that a reader may relate to.
-jb
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 11:14 am
1. My strongest reaction to the reading was the fact that women are so much more mistreated than I realized. The fact that women are not allowed to do anything and are given their roles in life by the men of the community is utterly ridiculous.
2. One abuse pointed out in the novel is concerning laws restricting freedom of expression and association.
3. This selection was a lot eaiser to read than the articles we are usually given to read, but I thought that this novel would be a lot more interesting.
Brynley Q.
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Peter Roman
1- My strongest reaction was to the fact that we have heard countless times about how bourgeoise upper-class woman in Tehran are rebelling against their totalitarian government. What I would like to know is, “What are those poor ruralites thinking? Who is this infinite base of power from whom the Ayatollahs reap their power?” Let’s find out more on these people, let’s find the underdog. Though historically the upper-class rebels first, I would rather discard this post-Marx notion for a more optimistic, holistic approach to the struggle for cultural (and economic, military, or other) liberalization- the whole country needs to shake off its shackles.
2- The fact that judges are appointed by the theocratic assemblies of Ayatollahs is truly despicable. When young Iranians are thrown in jail for committing sins, these judges can give out whatever sentences they see fit.
3- This was easier to read, but we are thrown headfirst into a novel that should be read completely and as it is written, from beginning to end. Also, the teacher should have at least read the entire book, as to be able to capture his/her pupil’s attention and curiosity. Just blandly stating the repercussions of living in a totalitarian regime isn’t enough. Despite these two grievances, this brief reading provided some humanity to the print-outs that we read otherwise.
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 5:32 pm
1. One thing in the article that surpirsed me was when the girls were arrested for things they did not commit and had to sign a paper saying they committed sins which they didnt. Also one girl had to get more lashes because she was wearing a thin T-shirt under her robe and the jailers thought she couldnt feel as much pain.
2. One abuse pointed out by Amnesty International was when they entered the house without a warrant. This affected the kids because they remember this moment exactly. They can remember everything that happened which meant that it could have been really scary for them.
3. I think this selection was easier to read because it gave more detail like when they were talking about the house I could picture exactly what it looked liked. Also it got right to the point about what was happening when the cops came and knocked and told them they were coming in because of someone next door. I didnt get indept information it just said what needed to be said. I think it was easier to read because it came from peoples personal experiences rather than just a list of details and events.
Jamie W
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globalspartan
// Nov 1, 2006 at 6:35 pm
1.) My strongest reaction was towards the way women are treated. It is disturbing how men have control of everything a woman does. And yet the women have no idea how much better their lives could be. But they have lived like this there whole lives, and deal with it, as if it is okay.
2.) One abuse pointed out by Amnesty International that grabbed my attention, was when there as a group of women sitting with a man. Revolutionary Guards had come to search the area. But the guards realized that there was nothing that these women had done wrong. But they did not want to waste there warrant. So they just took the women to jail. These women were forced to take virginity tests, then had to sign confession of a crime, which in there case they did not even violate. This caused an impact because women became afraid to go about there everyday life styles. Even if women where proper and never committed a crime, who knew when they will be committed for one, with no reasoning at all.
3.) I thought that this reading was much easier. Mainly I think because I have always found women’s rights interesting. But also, because reading something with a background story, such as a novel is easier to follow. I like being able to compare lifestyles, it makes you appreciate your freedom.
Shawna O.
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globalspartan
// Nov 2, 2006 at 12:09 am
1. I had my strongest reaction while reading when I came to the part about curing a man’s sexual appetite by having sex with a chicken. It was derived from Ayatollah’s book and it is shocking that there is actually rules on a situation like this one.
2. One of the more shocking abuses pointed out by Amnesty International was the ability to enter anyones home without a warrant. Here in America that is illeagal and I personally can not think how a society could work with something like that being legal. It takes away all privacy and freedom from anyone who falls under that law. In the novel, officials barged right in to the narrators house looking for a neighbor of hers.
3. This was a little bit easier to read because there was a story being told, it kept your interest in it, and it was from a good book.
-Dylan L.
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globalspartan
// Nov 2, 2006 at 8:30 pm
1. Personally for me the strongest reaction while reading this came to over throughout the story. It is very disturbing and contriversal to many americans. Our way of living is nothing like the iranians. We have completely different morals and beliefs. Being a girl, the part about the mistreated women is most disturbing. I am a very outspoken and straightforward person. It would be so happy for me to have to sit there and under shadow all these men and have the tell me what to do and do what ever they want to me. For the women not to have the ability to stand up for themselves i find crazy.
2.The most shocking abuse pointed out by Amnesty International was when they entered the house without a warrant. After reading all of this it seems like the people have no controll. It seems as if they are living like robots they have to do everything they are told, they have no rights and no say.
3. I think this was easier to read first just because it was more interesting. It was more graphic and meaningfull and you really got a good feeling for exactally what was going on. It kinda put the reader in the authors shoes and made us feel for them. It was also easier because of the context itself, the words were easier and it was in a story form and it wasnt all over the place just very much to the point. Last reason was because of the decussion about it in class. Before I handed it in our class decussed it and just overviewed it and prepared me for what i was gonna read which made me more excited to read it.
Alex S.
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CBS Sports
// Feb 25, 2007 at 6:59 am
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