GlobalStudies06

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• 1    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 1:51 pm

  1.) The comment stated by the Authors is that “the failures of the tribunal for Rwanda far outweigh its benefits.” This is true. Although we have learned a lot from it to be aware at all times and in watch for another in the future. For example we now understand that we must pay attention to the warnings. Which means that better early warning systems are definitely needed. After all we had no idea that this genocide was even accruing in Rwanda until 2 weeks into the slaughter. After this genocide there are countries that have created new laws regarding prosecutors. Also reconsidering how to prosecute mass killers.
  2.) In my opinion the three main lessons learned after the genocide in Rwanda are: The reconsideration of how to prosecute mass killers. The proposal of better warning systems. The launch of the new version of the Gacaca system.

  Shawna O

• 2    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:37 pm

  1. I agree with Shawna that the ICTR has more shortcomings than it does healing powers. For one, it was under funded. Now, I realize it did not ask for this, but when you are not equipped to handle the task assigned to you, you have to be responsible and either hand it off to someone else or get creative. Some may take the reading last night and think that ICTR got creative by starting the ICTR, but that was the work of the Rwandan government. Secondly, the ICTR “suffered from poor administration…and a narrow mandate.” If the group did not have their act together, how could they expect to justly catch and prosecute criminals? If the mandate is too narrow when put into action, go back to the superior court and have it adjusted. Third, the ICTR failed for not working things out with the Rwandan government. Only by working as one cohesive justice system, and share knowledge and policies, could all the right people end up with all the right punishments.

  2. The three most important lessons learned from Rwanda are:
  A- That the United Nations must act quickly and cohesively when they believe that an atrocity is occurring in the international community.
  B- Individual countries should not be afraid to act and offer their aid if they feel the U.N. is acting too slowly. This is precisely what the American people are trying to get the US government to do now in Sudan.
  C- Even though we say “never again,” people fight, and chances are tragic things will happen again. We need to have an established group monitoring “at risk” countries, and we need to react swiftly as an international community to stop violence when it breaks out.

  Kara B.

• 3    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 7:09 pm

  1. The failure of the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda outweighed the good ones. There were many aspects of the ICTR that made it harder for success. The first thing that was wrong with the ICRA was that they had poor administration in the early years. This is a major problem because without a working administration it is harder to get things done and get them done quickly. The second problem was that the gacacca justice failed to meet the international due process standards. This was a problem because these standards are set for a reason. Third they excluded crimes committed in 1994. This was a big problem because the process of getting ready for the genocide started in 1994 and the people that didn’t fight but help to get ammunition should get into trouble as well. With these problems it is going to be hard to help the refugees of Rwanda.

  2. The three most important lessons that can be learned from the crisis in Rwanda are that the U.N didn’t take the warning signs of the Hutus building up ammunition seriously. If they had taken these seriously then the genocide might not have occurred in the first place. The second lesson is that the U.N needs better system to warn them of warning signs early so that they will have enough time to prevent something for happening before the war and chaos starts. The third lesson was learned by the Rwandan people who feel that they have learned never to trust the U.N and other nations to help them with their crisis because they were not there for them when they needed help the most. This is unfortunate that the U.N and other countries did not help them when they needed help.

  Jamie I.

• 4    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 7:12 pm

  1. The failures of the ICTR out way the good things that they have done in many ways. One way is that the organization had poor administration. This was a huge problem because with poor administration the ICTR can not get done what they need to help the Rwandan people. The second way is that the organization fails to meet the international due process standers. This is a problem because these standers are used to help the better situations and if they are not being meet them the situation can not get better. Lastly, the ICTR is not using the crimes that were committed in 1994 this is a huge problem because the people who committed crimes that started the genocides needed to be persecuted too. This is a problem because those people who helped bring weapons into Rwanda and started the genocides are just being let off the hock.

  2. There were many important lessons that were learned by everyone involved. One lesson learned was that the U.N needs to pay more attention that the many warning sings that they were given. They also need to take these warning signs seriously because if they did they might have been able to prevent the genocides. Another lesson that they learned was that the U.N needed to create a system that could help them to detect the warning sign that they are missing. This could help to also prevent another mass killing. Lastly, the Rwandan people feel as if they have leaned not to trust any other countries or the U.N. They feel this way because no one helped them to stop this genocide.
  Erika I.

• 5    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 7:13 pm

  1. I agree with both Shawna and Kara that the failures of the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda far outweigh the benefits. Few struggling court systems anywhere in the world will attract financial or technical aid. The ICTR suffered from poor administration in its early years and a narrow mandate. There is a lot of money spent on the ICTR.

  2. In my view the three most important lessons learned from Rwanda ten years later is the world know understands how to prosecute mass killers. Also other countries understand that they have to get involved earlier. The final lesson learned was that the U.N. has to take all signs of genocide serious.
  Alli B.

• 6    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 7:45 pm

  1. I would have to agree with Allison Corey and Sandra F. Joireman that the ICTR’s failures were larger than the benefits. “It is a difficult job to handle after an event with such a great impact, but I do beleive the ICTR could have found more answers and pleased more people. The article states the ICTR suffered from poor administratation in its early years and a narrow mandate. Even though money was spent on the ICTR it was difficult for them to make any real progress that they could brag about. In difficult times like the genocide in Rwanda it is very difficult to come up with the right answers. The goverment needs to work on protecting the people that live in the country from having an event like this happen again.
  monica c question 2 is on its way…

• 7    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 8:56 pm

  1. I agree with the statement “failures of the ICTR far outweigh the benefits because the ICTR suffered from poor administration which made me think about how they could help the people if they did not have a good administration themselves. Also I agree with Alli about how there is a lot of money spent on the ICTR. I don’t know if there was a lot spent on them to get a good administration but if it wasn’t then it was a waste because they didn’t know what to do with it. The third problem is that ICTR needs to communicate better with the Rwanda governement so they can accomplish more things faster.
  2. The three most important lessons learned from Rwanda to me are how America did not respond the same way it did the previous year for Somalia and will now never allow a repeat of Rwanda to occur. Also another lesson learned would be how to prosecute mass killers. Finally a lesson learned would be to take warning signs seriously because they may acutually happen and if you take them seriously the worst things that can happen is that they are fake.

  Jamie W

• 8    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 9:21 pm

  2. I think the three most important lessons learned from Rwanda are very important to preventing genocides in the future. One lesson learned is people thought the genocide erupted over night, which was not true. The genocide in Rwanda took months of planing and convincing people the Tutsis were bad. Another lesson learned is that if donors had made it clear they would cease aid unless the genocide was ceased immediately, the Hutus would have found it difficult to persuade the rest of the Hutu elite to go with their plan. And finally if western troops were brought in to help it would have made a major difference.
  monica C

• 9    globalspartan // Sep 20, 2006 at 9:34 pm

  1. 1) The ICTR or village courts didn’t have due process by international stardards.
  2) The courts created more resentment by the people.
  3) Revenage killings afterwards were not covered by those courts.

  2. 1) Genocide even though it occurs in the “haze of war”, has warning signs ahead of time. The international community, UN, and is reluctant to act.
  2) Overpopulation and a dependeance on foreign did have an influence on the planned genocide.
  3) Desire for power by leaders led to killing on both sides.

  -Torri C

• 10    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 10:20 am

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  2- The think the three most important things that people learned from the Rowanda genocide are that you should never underestimate the people you are fighting. The U.N never that it would have got that bad and it did. Another that we learned was that the U.N was not doing all it could to help the people because instead of giving 5000 people to help they only sent about 1000 which did not help anyone. The final thing that we learned from Rowanda is people decide to help the Hutu would not of done so well because the more people that helped the less the Hutu elite could do.

• 11    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 10:21 am

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• 12    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 10:31 am

  1) The faliures of the ICTR greatly outweigh the benifits. A lack of urgency and funding to follow up this tragedy led it to get to the point that it did. Because of a lackluster adminstritation in the early years they did not get a good start to fix this problem.

  2) The most important thing I hope people have learned from Rwanda is tolerance. We are all basically the same, and there is no reason to create conflict over our petty differences. If something were to happen like this again I would hope that the U.N. would act faster and with more determination.

  -Mike H.

• 13    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 10:49 am

  Jon B.
  1) The Gacaca process exludes the crimes commited in retaliation to the genocide. there for is not a fair system. the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda is not backed by the Rwandan government because they do not have the death penaltie, There for it has falterd. Without the ICTR the people have turned to local courts, so the U.N. is left out of a majority of the proceedings. They holds no real control over the justice that needs to be served. Using both systems is not practical because most of the judges used in the Gacaca system aren’t well traind and certaintly do not meet the International due process standards. there will be a strong resentment from those who support the Hutus, if not make future atrocities more likely. The “failures of the [International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda] far outweigh the benefits”.
  2) Lesson one: claims of genocide from U.N. Personnel and pleas for help are to be taken in to serious concideration. Those in charge should not turn the other cheek and question the cost of intervention regardless of wether or not there are strategic interests involved. Help in the form of safety/security and mediation should be provided, not questioned. The U.N. acted as though the responsibilities were not on them to keep the peace; and pulling out was wrong. The donars or the ones supplying air drops of food and other goods should have ceased their actions until the violence was resolved or peace agreements made. If the countries who provided air drops provided peace keeping soldiers instead then threats to cut off aid drops wouldn’t have been so nessicary. Never the less, they did not act with their full capabilities to help resolve the conflict and prevent the genocide. The lesson to be learned is the position that external aiding countries hold to help protect man kind from the horrors of war and genocide. “Never Again” and “Not On My Watch” they should up hold them. That lesson should be learned, because now they have blood on their hands. Lesson Two: Revenge, hatred, and ethnic wars are powerful notions and are not to be taken lightly by anyone. It was these things and the power struggle that lead up to the Genocide in Rwanda as the U.N. Leaders discussed whether or not an intevention was worth the cost. Lesson three: the U.N. does not have an affective system for dealing with countries at risk of war and horrible atrocities. They need to be able to acces information and react quickly when signs of genocide appear.

• 14    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 7:18 pm

  1. The failures of the ICTR definitely outweigh the benefits of it. The first reason is the poor administration, if the leaders of the organization are not good then positive results are hard to find. Second, is the ICTR fails at successfully communicating with the Rwandan government. Third, I agree with other students that there was a lot of money spent on the ICTR that seemed to do nothing.
  2. In my view the three most important lessons learned from Rwanda ten years later is that history should never repeat itself. There have been previous genocides where after they happened the world said, ‘never again’, but it did happen again and the help did not come. Our world needs to learn from these catastrophes. Another important lesson is that people willing to help should listen to the signs and act on them. Finally the third most important lesson is to educate children positively and not teach them hatred at a young age. If there is hatred placed in minds of young children, when they grow up fighting with violence is going to be something they won’t think is wrong.

  ~Carly S.~

  p.s- this was late because I was absent

• 15    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 10:32 pm

  1. I agree with a couple of the girls here on the fact that failures of the ICTR far outweigh the benefits. I believe that the ICTR had a lot more on their plate then they could handle. They did not have a stabble administration. I believe that without a strong administration things become shakey and situations can become overbaring and they are unable to resolve the,. I also think that the situation with the gacacca justice failing to meet the international due process stand was a big deal. Mostly because without standards there is no structure which is the purpose of the standards and without them it can become chaotic. Third i believe that all this money went into the ICTR, but as my points said before the ICTR wasnt very productive so it was pretty much a waste.

  2. The three lessons I learned through this are basically based around awareness. I think it is important for the UN to be more aware and also for other countries to be more aware i think if they were it could have prevented a lot of this mass killing events.

• 16    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 10:34 pm

  alex s.
  I really will get it one day

• 17    globalspartan // Sep 21, 2006 at 11:25 pm

  1. I feel the number of failures of the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda do outweigh the number of its achievements. First this is because the ICTR “suffered from poor administration in its early years and a narrow mandate.” Second, they failed to use the money for what it was worth. They had a total of close to $500 million over a decade and nothing really to show for it. Third, they failed in their communication with the Rwandan government.

  2. Number one of the three most important lessons learned from Rwanda, ten years later, is that the U.N. needs to be on top of things going on around the whole world. Negligence is not expectable and if peacekeeping is their only job, they should be able to get it done. Number two is that as a world we need to support each other. When there are problems, especially such as genocide, the world needs to step in and help out, right away. Number three is that we need to rethink the way we prosecute mass killers and must come up with something different.

  -Dylan L.

• 18    globalspartan // Sep 22, 2006 at 2:55 am

  1. The failures of the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda do outweigh the benefits because the ICTR had poor administration and a narrow mandate. Without the failures, there would be no need for the gacaca system. There was about $500 million spent on the ICTR. The ICTR needs to improve their system before they can help anyone else.

  2. The three most important lessons learned from Rwanda ten years later are:
  a) The genocide was planned over many months
  b) If the U.N. sent 5,000 troops, they might have been able to stop the genocide
  c) Never depend on other countries to solve problems, like depending on the U.N. Ask for help, but do not rely on just them.

  - Maggie L.

• 19    globalspartan // Sep 22, 2006 at 9:52 am

  1- The ‘gacama’ courts of Rwanda are a safe alternative to U.N. international courts and tribunals. When a significant portion of the population is also known to have committed genocidal murder, one cannot expect that an over-burdened society and the U.N. will be able to resolve the issue. In Auschwitz, it was very obvious who knew of the killing, or took part in it; this is not so in Rwanda. There, public officials and military officials are the only criminals who can be successfully passed through international law. Because in Rwanda a large segment of the civilian population partook in the slaughter, these civilian courts that are meant to spread communal healing have people watching optimistically. International Tribunals would be too costly, drawn-out, and ultimately ineffective.

  2- Rwanda is a very good example of how public opinion and status can be used to justify murder. However ashamed we are of our ineptitude in dealing with the situation there, we have learned how negligence can intensify a problem. Rwanda can be a testing ground for future conflict resolution missions. We now have the goal of re-assimilating a large portion of the Hutu refugees into the population. We have nearly three hundred years of ethnic predujice to catch up to so in effect this mission can aide in rebuilding trust between third-world (under-privileged) countries and the traditional colonial and imperialistic powers of the past. So, we have much more to learn from this scenario.

• 20    globalspartan // Sep 22, 2006 at 9:53 am

  the one above this is peter’s^^

• 21    globalspartan // Sep 22, 2006 at 10:51 am

  1. The ICTR’s failures overshadow the benefits on many counts. Some of the larger issues being suffering from a poor administration and a very constricted directive. The ICTR and gacaca system’s hunt for truth and redemption shows to be very practical in some senses. This move toward justice is made to force thousands of suspected criminals “through a rudimentary form of truth telling, community-based punishment, and reintegration into society over several years.”

  2. The three most important lessons learned from the Rwandan’s ten years later would be:
  1. Stop the genocide before it becomes a genocide.’
  2. Pay more attention to the media in situations of potentional ethnic, religious, or racial conflict and,
  3. be prepared to intervene with the armed forces.

  ——*Brynley Q.

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