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Shake Hands With the Devil – 9/15/06

September 14th, 2006 · 22 Comments
Africa Unit · Class Readings




Quick comment from your fearless leader – I’m changing the nature of the response to the readings.  You will have to answer two questions per reading from now on. 

The first question is meant to measure whether you read the article closely and understand the material.  The second question is meant for you to take a stand in response to the reading and support this stand.  Here, you are encouraged to respectfully respond to the arguments shared by your classmates.  The great thing about a blog is that we can refine our ideas with each others’ help – so without further delay, lets do just that!

Knowledge & Understanding 

1.  Compare the character that Nick Nolte plays in the movie Hotel Rwanda with the actual man Romeo Dallaire.  List three ways the movie character is or is not true to the actual man.

Argument stance (choose one) 

2.  Dallaire places blame at the hands of both the U.N. and individual nations who did not have the political will to step up to the situation.  Who deserves more of the blame and why?

3.  Based on the Rwandan example, do you think the U.N. made an isolated mistake (albeit catastrophic) putting its faith in the peace accords and sending only a relatively small peacekeeping force or does this example point to a larger issue with U.N. peacekeeping policy?  Defend your answer.

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  • 1    globalspartan // Sep 15, 2006 at 1:07 am

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    - Maggie L.

  • 2    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 11:19 am

    1. Both Nick Nolte and Romeo Dallaire were very interested in helping the people in Rwanda. Both men did not want to stand by and let the Rwandan people get killed. Nolte and Dallaire both wanted to get the U.N intervene so that people would not keep being killed for no reason. The two men were also both willing to risk their lives to help the people from Rwanda and they also both were willing to stay when no one else would. Both of the men refused to give up when all of the other forces were being pulled out, even if not one else “gave a damn” both of these men proved and showed that they really cared. Both Dallaire and the movie character Nolte were heroes and should be recognized for the bravery and hope that they showed trying to save the Rwandan people.

    2. In my opinion the U.N deserved more blame. Like stated in the article other courtiers do not have to waste resources or risk their people in the conflict of another country. The other countries had the right to choice not to help even though they were wrong; it was a chose that they had the right to make. However, the U.N does not have this choice. One of their biggest goals is to help provide peace and safety. The U.N could have one much more then what they did for the Rwandan people. The U.N is helping the people in Yugoslavia much more then they helped the Rwandan. Even if Yugoslavia is close to home or is in Europe that does not make them any more important then the Rwandan people. The U.N does not have the ability to choice that they are going to help it is one of the main purposes of the U.N. In my opinion they did not do nearly as much as they could to help the Rwandan people.
    Erika I.

  • 3    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 11:22 am

    1. Both the character Nick Nolte and the man Romeo Dallaire wanted to help the Rwandans achieve peace. They were willing to stay to try to stop the genocide from continuing. They were both willing to risk their lives to stay and help without the support of the U.N or other nations around the world. The men really did care about these causes. Both men tried to get the U.N to help them while they were in Rwanda. Although the U.N did not send reinforcements both men were willing to stay and help the Rwandan people.

    2. The U.N deserved the blame for many reasons. Number one being that it is one of the U.N’s job to ensure that peace and safety is kept. The U.N could have done a lot more then what they did. While the other countries were practicing the “Mogadishu rule” the U.N should not have been able to pull troops out. The U.N also should have listen to Dallaire and seized the weapons so that maybe the genocide would not have occurred. In Dallaire’s opinion the U.N only goes where they believe that people count which is not the purpose of the U.N. The U.N is willing to help the people in Yugoslavia because they believe that these people matter more then the people in Rwandans do. The U.N should keep peace and safety everywhere even if they do not believe that the people count.

    Jamie I.

  • 4    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 3:31 pm

    1. Both Nick Nolte in the movie Hotel Rwanda and Romeo Dallaire were willing to help the people in Rwanda. Both Nolte and Dallaire were sent into Rwanda to help both sides. Either Nolte or Dallaire had enough military support to stop anything right away. Both men stayed in Rwanda, risking their lives with little support. The major powers wouldn’t act because they had nothing to gain from joining in and also they would have lost men and material by entering. Both Nolte and Dallaire put forth a great effort to help the people in Rwanda.

    2. The United Nations deserves more of the blame. The United Nations refused to send Dallaire reinforcements, “and his force shrunk from 2,600 soldiers to 800 as nations withdrew their troops in the first days of the slaughter.” While the genocide in Rwanda was going on the Rwandan ambassador was sitting on the Security Council. The Rwandan ambassador was representing the extremist government. The U.N. did nothing about this, and having the ambassador on the council he had access to all the interplay and discussion. The ambassador had advantage, knowing what the U.N. was talking about and planning. I agree with both Jamie and Erika that the U.N. did not do as much as they could have to help the people in Rwanda. Also they make a good point that one of the U.N.’s biggest goals is to help provide peace and safety, which they clearly did not do in Rwanda.

    *Alli Berger*

  • 5    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 5:02 pm

    1.) The role that Character Nick Nolte plays in the movie Hotel Rwanda is very similar to real life Romeo Dallaire. They both tried to help both sides to create a peace agreement. Their remaining forces stayed to save as many people as they could. The united nation refused to send them reinforcements, decreasing their men from 2,600 solders to 800. Overall, the actual life story is well portrayed throughout the movie.

    2.) I think that the UN deserves most of the blame. If one of their main roles is to provide safety, then why did they allow the number of solders in Rwanda to drop from 2,600 to 800? By refusing to send over reinforcements, the UN did not do their job in maintaining the safety.

    Shawna O

  • 6    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 6:34 pm

    1. Nick Nolte is like Romeo Dallaire because they both tried to save as many lives as they could. They both were able to recieve troops to protect the people they were trying to save. Nick and Romeo both witnessed inhuman acts.
    2. The UN deserves more blame because they refused to send in reinforcements and withdrew 1,800 troops when the slaughters started. The UN did not live up to their standard of safety and protecting people.

    Jamie W

  • 7    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 7:14 pm

    1. Romeo Dallaine is more educated and is more interested in helping the people. The character Nick in the movie is more of a soldier who is resigned to the political realities of Africa.

    2. The UN derserves more of the blame because they allowed Rwandan government officials to sit in on UN sercurity council meetings. The Rwandians knew what the UN was going to do not do. On many occasions UN forces have not been affective in keeping the peace and couldn’t be counted on to have the political will to fix the situation.

    -Torri C

  • 8    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 8:02 pm

    1. I think the two people,Romeo Dallaine and the character Nick from the movie are both interested in the same overall goal. Romeo Dallaine has a genuine concern for the people in Africa and wants to devote himself to making a difference. Nick wants to strive toward the same goal as Romeo Dallaine but does not seem as devoted to the peace keeping.

    2. The U.N. deserves more of the blame because they represent the United Nations and peace keeping is a major part of their job. I don’t think it is entirely reasonable to expect countries around the world to always be involved in other countries problems. The U.N. has a liability to ensure peace.

    Monica C

  • 9    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 10:39 pm

    1. One way the movie character is true to the actual man is that in the movie he had the responsibly of protecting and trying to save as many people as he could and did save many lives and that’s also what the actual man did. One difference between the movie character and the actual man is I feel the actual man comes across much more educated in the interview then in the movie where he was more of a run and gun personality. And finally I feel that in the movie they don’t really show all the things he was trying to do as well as all the difficulties that he was facing trying to save these people that he talked about in his interview.
    2. I feel that the nations who did not have the political will to step up to the situation deserves more of the blame because the U.N. is made up of all the different nations and if the nations don’t support the mission at hand then a lot of the U.N.’s power is taken away. And Romeo Dallaire talks about how even when some nations tried to step in and help the big nations stepped up and stopped this because they did not want to get involved.

    Jonathan O.

  • 10    globalspartan // Sep 17, 2006 at 11:55 pm

    1. Nick Nolte’s character and Romeo Dallaire are similar and different. The director of Hotel Rwanda did a great job expressing how much Dallaire cared about the Rwandans. Both characters shared want to help and make things better in Rwanda. Another similarity was that both characters were upset with the U.N for not doing enough and felt guilty for not being able to help more. However, one difference the characters had is that Nick Nolte’s character seemed more racist and outspoken then the real Romeo Dallaire.
    2. I think the U.N. deserves more of the blame. I believe this because they were receiving information from Dallaire and other people that genocide was going to happen and later genocide was happening. As Dallaire said in the article, the risk was too high. The U.N. didn’t want to risk any of their people’s lives or cause upset in the world so they didn’t help much at first and the killing continued.

    ~Carly S.~

  • 11    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 6:37 am

    1- As with most cinema, truth has to be altered to be more compatible with the artist’s medium. Nolte is no exception; Romeo Dallaire is portrayed as mostly ignorant to the oncoming genocide, and his cameos are made to be heart-wrenching and uber-dramatic. All in all, RD does share his theatrical characters view points as to why there was not more intervention, and definatly asserts himself as a hero of humanitarian intervention. 30,000 Rwandans may seem small in contrast to the hundreds of thousands lost in the genocide, but to be able to know that some people in power still value human life is rather reassuring. I’m finding it hard to criticize the movie because it really does give an attainable, almost unaltered, view of the conflict for the masses.

    2- Firstly, I would like the caution the reader/s that I do not know nearly enough about actual humanitarian ability and I feel too far-removed from such circumstances to have a clear view of the topic.
    I want to believe that losses from a complete intervention would affect a nation’s, and the world’s, economy. Nations are not prepared to involve themselves in a potentially enduring conflict; both on an economic level and a popular level. People are really not ready to lose there countrymen’s lives in a distant conflict. I do think that the larger nation’s, such as the U.S., have a greater responsibility in such instances though. The potential benefits of such selflessness can outweigh the burdens. Maybe America could even reclaim some of it’s former glory as an international watchdog.

    -Peter R.

  • 12    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 7:52 am

    1. The character Nick Nolte plays in the movie Hotel Rwanda compared to the actual man Romeo Dallaire are both very similar. They both agree that the world is not doing enough to help countries in the world like Rwanda or Darfur. Also, both people made a choice to stay and help the people of Rwanda despite the fact that they did not receive any reinforcement or help that they needed. Finally, they both had the common goal of peace and prosperity in Rwanda.

    2. Romeo Dallaire placed blame in both the U.N. and individual nations of the world for not stepping up to the situation in Rwanda, but it is the U.N. who deserves more of the blame. This is because many of the nations in the world will be busy worrying about their own problems. I am not saying that they should do nothing to help the situation which was in Rwanda, but it is not going to be their #1 priority. For the U.N. the Rwandan situation should have been a #1 priority and by pulling many of their troops out of the country and by not providing the help they should have, most of the blame should be put on them. It id the U.N.’s job to uphold peace and safety in the world and they failed to do that in Rwanda.

    -Dylan L.

  • 13    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 8:04 am

    1. Both Nick Nolte and Romeo Dallaire tried every avenue available to them to try and get people out of Rwanda. Nolte had all the people in the hotel use their contacts; Dallaire used every contact available to him. Both men did not leave the country when things got bad, like Erika and Jamie said. The only divergence in the two men that was apparent to me was the real Dallaire was much more sympathetic and charged up to save every single life possible than Nolte was in the movie. However, be it that it is just that, a movie, maybe there was not enough room in the script to develop Nolte’s character to that extent.

    3. I believe that the U.N. did not make an isolated mistake. This is another occurrence in terrible string of catastrophes in which the U.N. failed to intervene in any meaningful way. We can tell this is not an isolated example by examining what is happening in Sudan right now. There is a genocide going on, and the U.N. is not stopping it. The larger issue is that the U.N. does not have enough resources to back up its rulings. It needs forces to turn its decisions into law. There are currently no repercussions if countries decide to disobey the U.N.’s decisions, so what’s stopping them? General respect will only get a government to do so much.

    ~Kara B.

  • 14    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 8:05 am

    1- Nick Nolte, the man who played Romeo Dallaire in the movie Hotel Rowanda, and the real Romeo Dallaire were very different. In the movie Hotel Rowanda Romeo seemed like a passive and kind, but the real Romeo seemed very angery and kind of mean. Romeo showed that he really wanted to help the people in Rowanda and in real life you did want to help those people. The last reason to how RD was held true to his personality was that he was willing to give his life to make sure that he did the best he could do.

    2- I believe that the blame belongs to the U.N. The reason i believe that the U.N deserves the blame is because from wathcing the movie it seemed that the U.N was not trying to all it could to help the Rowanda people. Watching the U.N pull out of Rowanda was a shock because those are the people who are to trying to keep the peace are leaving the people of Rowanda their to be killed.

    *Nick Deviso*

  • 15    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 8:43 am

    1) The charector Nick Nolte plays in the movie Hotel Rwanda is very similar to the man Romeo Dallaire because both men tried their hardest to create peace and make it stay peaceful. Also, they both tried to save as many people as they could. Finally, they both wouldnt sit their and watch people die, they acually did something about it.
    2) The UN is more at blame than the individual nations because the UN’s job is to help create peace between contries. Also, there job is to keep people safe. I agree with what Shawna said about how is the UN going to let the soldiers in Rwanda go from 2600 to 800. The UN is not doing there job there suppose to and its letting down alot of people.

    -Christina Newsome

  • 16    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 9:41 am

    1) Both Nick Nolte in the movie Hotel Rwanda and Romeo Dallaire were trying their very best to create peace and save as many people as they possibly could. Both guys stayed at the hotel and risked their lives to protect the people inside, even with little support from the U.N. The only diffrence I noticed between the two is that Dallaire was much less sympathetic then he was in the film.

    2)The idividual countrys are more to blame because they did not put up soldiers to create peace. The U.N. is limited to their amount of soldiers but if other countrys could have gave some of their military to Rawanda they could of prevented the genocide from happening.

    (Jay Long)

  • 17    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 10:07 am

    1. The portral of Canidian general Romeo Dallaire in the movie Hotel Rwanda by Nick Nolte shows to be very true in some ways but untrue in others. The real Romeo Dallaire and Nick Nolte’s character showed to be very similar in the way that they both tried their best to stay strong and fight for what was right in Rwanda. Both Nick Nolte’s character and Romen Dallaire showed that they were not going to abandon the Rwandans for anything.

    2. When Dallaire attempts to blame the U.N. and individual countries for the genocide he brings up excellent points. I believe that some of the blame can be placed on the individuals countries because as Dallaire explained in the interview,
    “This is where I consider that I failed my mission. I believe that before the war started I should have pressed far more. And certainly, my superior — who was the special representative from Cameroon — should have, but he was giving them a completely different picture, a much less dangerous picture than I was. We should have pressed for another mandate to give me extended powers to be able to curtail the insecurity that was mounting. I think that Boutros-Ghali should have come on the ground and berated all sides in order to advance the peace process. Then, once the war started, it was totally in the hands of the Security Council and the permanent five. Although the permanent three, France, the U.K. and the Americans, emasculated anyone from coming to reinforce us and stop the massacre,” (MotherJones.com 3).

  • 18    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 10:09 am

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  • 19    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 10:47 am

    1) Nick Nolte and Romeo Dallaire both did the best they could for the Rwandans. They both tried their hardest to get as many people of of the hotel safely as they could with the little amount of support they could get. THe UN could not provide them eith additional soldiers, yet they both refused to leave the Rwandans behind.

    2) In my opinion, I think the indevidual countries are more to blame then the UN. Though the UN is at fault as well, countries can provide their own troops and help the Rwandans. Instead, most of them stood by as this genocide occured.

    ~Jihan Hoilett~

  • 20    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 8:14 pm

    1) In my opinion I felt that both Nick and Romeo were very similar. They were both trying to maintain peace in Rowanda as well as many other places. They tried to make it a safe enviroment for the Rowandans. Although the UN forced them to leave they both seemed to do the best they could. In the article it seemed that Romeo was a little more upset about the whole situation then in the movie. You had to really comprehend what he was saying in the bar scene when he was like “we” dont want to help you because your black, that wasnt exactally his output on it.

    2)I believe that the UN is at blame in this situation. They were put in a bad position where they found themselves running out of army and resources to help protect their people. I thought that in a situation like this the UN should expect that and be a little more aware of what was going on and had at least a back up plan. I thought that they also just left the Rowandans high and dry and led them on to believe that they were going to get out fine and that they were going to help them and then like that just dropped them. I also thought it was ironic that the head of Rowanda was on the comity.

  • 21    globalspartan // Sep 18, 2006 at 8:15 pm

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